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đŁď¸ What would you do if war broke out?
With Catherine Day, Co-Founder of the National Strategy Project.

For my colleagues in Ukraine, war has been a reality for four long years.
I remember the first time we heard the drone of an air raid siren over a team call. A colleague apologised for the disturbance, said they needed to go, and several cameras turned off in quick succession.
War and resilience are a regular topic of conversation with our clients in Brussels. But in the UK, few outside of the national security and foreign policy space seem to be talking about it. It feels far away in many sensesâgeographically, culturally, generationally (it is telling that before 2022 my reference point for what an air raid siren sounds like was WW2 films.)
The lens through which many view the prospect of war and growing defence spending is âitâs taking our budgetsâ. This is of course trueâbut, if you were in government, how would you respond to growing geopolitical instability? And if our governments are planning for war, should we be planning too?
Itâs just one of the many questions that Catherine Day, todayâs guest, intends to grapple with through the National Strategy Project. Catherine is a career insider who has spent over a quarter of a century advising successive British governments from within No. 10, the Cabinet Office, and the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office.
One of the reasons she co-founded the National Strategy Project is because of this sense that as a society we are vulnerable: we donât have the right kinds of institutions for todayâs challenges; we conceptualise community as something local and atomisedânot national; and we donât sufficiently interrogate what our role as a citizen is or should be. You can read more about the challenges the Project intends to address here.
Itâs not just our nations and societies that should be thinking about this, but our organisations too. I wouldnât have believed you if youâd told me five years ago that Cast from Clay would shortly buy power backup units and have conscription contingency plans.
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Success is not necessarily what does happen, but what does not
A lot of my career has been in the national security space, the international space, and on geopolitics. Perhaps because of that, my career highlights are often about what we avoided or prevented, rather than what we made happen.
This is one problem with views on government today: its core duty is keeping us safe, but people donât see most of that because security is largely measured in things not coming to pass.
The proximity of war
We are wildly vulnerable right now. We take a lot for granted in the UK today when it comes to defence, and I say that as someone who grew up in Northern Ireland and served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Weâre not resilient. Successive governments have opened us up to risks in many ways by failing to plan and prepare for the long-term. The COVID pandemic showed how fragile our supply chains are. The war in Iran is showing how vulnerable our energy systems are. And weâve quietly let our civil resilience fall away. Weâre not bringing up our children in ways that will help them to survive if and when things get difficult: their ability to critically think is vulnerable.
There is nothing surprising about the risks. We have simply not invested in preparing for them. In many countries, citizens are trained and organised to act when crises come. Here, we mostly assume someone else will deal with themâor that weâll call in the army.
Your role as a citizen is to challenge and better the state
Just because weâve stepped into a set of systems that dictate âthis is the way things are doneâ, does not mean that it has been thought through properly. It definitely does not mean that it is the right way to do things in the future.
One of the things Iâve always found strange is that Northcote and Trevelyan would still recognise the structures and functions of the government that we have. Despite the fact that they wrote down the rules for the permanent civil service nearly two hundred years ago.
That is not okay. The British state and context was entirely different then. It simply is irrational to think that institutions that were set up so long ago are fit for the times in which weâre living today.
Political incentives are one of those vulnerabilities
There are huge challenges that we have to deal with: demographic change, climate change, technological pressures, economic shifts⌠These are all long-term challenges, but we rely on a politically-dominated short-term system to respond to them.
People in the system are trapped in this way of doing things that sees politicians having to win elections every few years, and which sees a civil service having to implement whatever the current government has come up with. Those things are often not necessarily rooted in reality. They are rooted in the realities that enable politicians to win elections. We inhabit a system with the wrong incentives.
I was part of the team that did Boris Johnsonâs Integrated Review of foreign, defence, development and security that was meant to set our strategy for the coming decades. One of the bits of direction we received was, âWell, you canât touch Europe. Itâs still too toxic.â
You canât come up with a serious national strategy that ignores the massive market on your doorstep because of such short-term constraints.
The methodologies that prop up a flawed approach
Focus groups and surveys donât answer the right kind of questionâtheyâre like a dipstick of where public opinion is now. They donât ask people to engage their minds on the reality of the issues at hand.
Itâs why we are embracing deliberative methods in the National Strategy Project. We donât want a measure of where people are now, but a measure of where people are when they have thought about the matter at hand, and when they have exchanged views with people who have different views to their own.
Changing our institutions starts with you
We have a strange learned dependency culture of government in this country where the government is an Other. We donât see it as being of us; itâs something else. That makes it easier to blame when things go wrong: this idea that government is something that politicians do to us, and that the civil service facilitates.
Government is the expression of our people. It is the sum total of the choices we make as a society about how to organise ourselves. It is not some Other.
You donât get that in other countries. In Vietnam and South Korea they have this vibrant sense that theyâre all in it together, and theyâre going to organise themselves to have a better future.
The problem is maybe how we conceptualise community. In Britain, what we mean by community tends to be our local communities. We havenât put equal and opposite effort into thinking about ourselves as a national community.
Our current political fragmentation is the natural end result of that: you canât devolve out and devolve down and expect everything to hang together unless youâre also thinking about what brings us together. Weâve all got a role to play in that.
There is a cohort of people who reliably read to the endâthank you for being one of them.
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